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TOO Wet! TOO Dry! What should the bedding in my Worm Bin look like??

The last couple of days, I have got some emails with some really good questions about taking care of the worm bins, some of the questions included.1) How do I tell if the bin is wet enough? 2) when should we harvest the worms? 3) What does the bedding look like when its time to harvest the Worm Castings?
In this post I will try to answer all these great questions and provide some pics of the bedding in the worm bins through to the finished (completely composted bedding)

Here are some questions from a customer of mine, here is what Ed asked!
I read that it should be “like a damp sponge”. I also wonder if I actually have enough worms…In time , I’m sure I will. Would it be possible for you to take a few pics of one of your bins so I may guage conditions? Maybe lift some cover to show conditions inside the pile? Should I rotate the bottom to the top or occasionally break up to aerate?

1) How wet should your worm bin be? well the wet sponge idea is the safe zone, not much will go wrong if you follow this tip. In my opinion your bin has to be a little more wet then the wet sponge idea, So that your moisture is almost wet! if you are using a plastic bin, you should see moisture on the sides of the bin, European Nightcrawlers like the bin with more moisture then the Red Wigglers do.You need the moisture for the bin to operate properly, in quoting my wife (Lorie) she tells our customers that in time after buying worms and or a complete bin from us, That taking care of the worms just starts to come natural to you, you soon start to learn how much to feed the worms, what food waste the worms just love, and what food takes a while to break down so the worms can consume that food.

2) Should I rotate the bedding in my bin bottom to top?
Don’t be afraid to get down and dirty in your worm bin, moving the bedding around in the bin doesn’t hurt, it gets the air moving in your bin, but you don’t have to do this, the worms will work all the bedding in the bin like little plows, the worms soon turn all the bedding into Castings(worm poop)

I hope Ed that these pics of my worm bin gives you an idea of what the bedding the bin should look like.

In my next post! I will answer these great questions from Gwen.
I too am interested in worm farming. I live in Central Oregon which is a great place to raise worms. I have started 3 bins, 2 plastice bins that are each 5 levels and one 30 gallon tub with lid. I am wondering how do you know when it is time to harvest worms and start a new bin? Seems simple, I get how to separate them , feed them and all but how do you know when to harvest? Should the bins be overflowing with worms??? Should it be when the composting is complete?? I feel silly not knowing but in all the books and websites I have visited this is not clearly addressed….. HELP!!!

Gwen

check back soon!

Jeff

Written by Jeff on August 18th, 2008 with 16 comments.
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Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Nolan
#1. August 28th, 2008, at 7:34 AM.

Got one question.

My bin near the end of completion (like 3 months in) always starts to get REALLY wet on the bottom. Actually to the point that when i try to rotate the bin’s contents, its got a wickedly bad odor.

Is there anything i can do to prevent this? (An older bin i put in bottom holes, but with this new recycled plastic bin, i dont want to) Should i just keep adding in more and more shredded paper/bedding to soak and rotate?

Thanks

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#2. August 29th, 2008, at 1:05 AM.

Hi Nolan

The smell is because of a lack of air in the bottom of the bin, So! if you don’t want to drill holes in the new plastic bin, Yes you are going to have to rotate your bedding a little to keep the air flow to stay away from the odors in the bottom of the bin where there is little air flow. I would use a different bedding try mixing cardboard and shredded paper together, this bedding has a little more bulk to it and the air will get to the bottom of the bin, some what better then just shredded paper.

Thanks Jeff

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Jc0225
#3. January 11th, 2009, at 8:08 PM.

Why do my red wigglers and euros seem to migrate to the bottom of my bins when I am adding compost to the top??

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#4. January 19th, 2009, at 12:01 AM.

Hi there

Worms are light sensitive, so this could be one of the reasons, also any source of heat in food that was just added could also cause the worms to migrate to the bottom of the bin, even if you can’t feel the added heat from the new food or bedding, the worms know there is alittle heat there. We know that there is not enough heat there to kill the worms, the worms don’t know that. so they will stay away for a day or two. just to be save..

Jeff

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com John Massey
#5. July 4th, 2009, at 9:09 PM.

Hi,

I am a total beginner. What should I use as bedding? Is cut up newspaper alright? I have what I think is worm castings. Its pretty wet, like really black mud. To harvest, should I not put food on one side, so that the worms move over to the other side where the food is? then, when the worms have vacated, take out the worm castings and dry them. This is where I am in the process. I am not sure how to render the castings into a dry-ish material for use in the garden.

John

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Deb Malgeri
#6. July 16th, 2009, at 7:18 PM.

I have had my 4 drawer worm composter for about 6 weeks now. I ahve 2 ibs of worms.The bottom 2 drawers have dark compost a bit moist and still have worms in them. I have been putting my food wastes in the third drawer and the worms are up into that one already. How soon do I begin to put compost in the final drawer? How will I know when to harvest the dirt and how do I get the worms out. I have been afraid to put too much in the drawers. I can’t figure out how to gage the amount of compost to put into the drawers for the worms to eat.
Also, the worms in the bottom bin seem smaller that the worms in the top. are they starving or are they maybe new worms?
I am unsure when the compost is ready for use. I have drained off some tea about 4-6 ozs twice now. Is there a formula for a ratio of tea to water that works best?

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Jeff
#7. July 20th, 2009, at 1:51 AM.

Hi Deb

If the vermicompost in the bottom 2 drawers is a nice dark colour, it is time to harvest those drawers. it seems like most of the worms are now up in the drawer with the food in it. if you are adding this finished vermicompost to your outside garden, you don’t have to harvest the small amount of worms left in the lower bin. just add worms and all to the garden. If you do want to use the vermicompost on indoor plants and you don’t want any little worms in the house plants, you can use a screen to screen out the pure castings and save the little worm eggs and little worms and add them to the drawer with the food in it. you can.
The (tea) is NOT tea.. this is leachate. and just out of the worm bin can sometimes not be good for plants.. I would make a compost tea. and that is made by using yiur finished compost at a ratio of about 1 cup (8 oz) of vermicompost to 4 litres of water. let this soak for a day or too, then its ready to use.

hope this helps..

Jeff

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#8. September 10th, 2009, at 7:38 PM.

Hi :)
I started up a worm bin about 3 months ago, and I’m not sure when I should harvest the castings. Every time I add food, I add a layer of shredded paper so the bin doesn’t get too wet. Now, the paper (matted) is mixed up with what I think are the castings. I also feed my worms a lot of coffee grinds, and I’m having a bit of a problem differentiating the castings from the grinds. I’ve read that worm castings can become toxic for the worms, so I don’t want to leave them in there too long but there’s still so much bedding that hasn’t been consumed! What should I do?

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Elliott
#9. November 17th, 2009, at 6:25 PM.

The material in my top drawer has become very wet and my red worms seem to be disapearing and being replaced by litle white worms (not pink). How can I fix this and not have it happen again?

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#10. November 18th, 2009, at 5:46 AM.

Hi Elliott
Your worm bin is TOO wet, Those little white worms are not redworms.. Those little white worms only appear when your bin starts to go acidic. and the redworms are passing on!! you need to get that bin dried up by mixing to get air in, and adding some shredded cardboard and shredded paper to absorb all that extra moisture, Red worms are hard to save at this point, so act fast, and get this fixed red worms can’t take these changing environments like the European Nightcrawlers can..
Jeff

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com Elliott
#11. November 18th, 2009, at 1:41 PM.

Thanks. Jeff– Mixes some in and we’ll see how it goes. If I have a full collapse what are the chances that there are enough surviving eggs for the bin to come back without adding additional worms. Will the conditions have destroyed the eggs as well?

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#12. November 18th, 2009, at 2:17 PM.

Hi Elliott

If you have a full collapse (all reds passing on)You should have enough worm eggs to have a go again without having to buy more worms. The conditions in the bin WILL NOT destroy the worm eggs.

Jeff

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com courtney
#13. February 2nd, 2010, at 3:09 AM.

I am just starting my first worm bin. 2 days ago I added one pound of worms to my 10 gallon container with damp paper and soil some of my worms were trying to escape today. I am worried that I did not start with enough bedding and I may have squeezed too much water out. Is half full enough for a 10 gallon plastic bin? And should I not wring out the newspaper shreddings after I soak?

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#14. February 2nd, 2010, at 6:22 AM.

Hi Courtney

It is normal for some worms to try and escape the first couple days after adding them to a bin. Its sounds like you have enough bedding, did you add some food waste as a food source for the worms?? if you haven’t this could be why the worms are still exploring! (or trying to escape) they could be looking for food..
if you have already added the food waste, then leave the lid off for a day or so with light above and the worms should settle in a day or two…

Jeff

Get your own gravatar by visiting gravatar.com John Koskinas
#15. February 4th, 2010, at 7:18 PM.

Is it ok to save harvested castings in an open container until spring planting – and then make “tea” for the garden? Or is there a loss of potentcy when the castings dry out? Should stored castings be kept wet? or can one brew tea and store the tea?
Thanks

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#16. February 5th, 2010, at 6:20 AM.

Hi John

You will loss potentcy if you leave the worm castings to dry out.. you don’t want to store them wet!! but not dried out.

Store in dark containers and out of the Sun. Worm tea needs to be used within days after brewing.

Jeff

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